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Cartoon Wars

Posted by Joe on Monday, April 03, 2006

From the Comedy Central Press Release:

Why does Cartman hate “Family Guy” so much? It’s all-new episode of “South Park” premiering Wednesday, April 5 at 10:00 P.M. on Comedy Central

Kyle loves “Family Guy” and hates Cartman. The two boys embark upon a mad chase across the country and the fate of “Family Guy” lies with the first boy to reach Hollywood in all new episode of “South Park” titled “Cartoon Wars,” premiering Wednesday, April 5 at 10:00 p.m. on Comedy Central.

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Caleb Smith (Mon 03 April 2006)
I'm all worried about someone making fun of Family Guy, god save us all!
matt (Mon 03 April 2006)
sounds like a nice south park episode. if this will offend fg fans its best not to waste time and complain about it.
Sammy (Tue 04 April 2006)
I was on the SouthPark website and I read about the new episode. I love SouthPark, but I just hope they dont rip on Family Guy too much. Seth and his crew have worked really hard! I was also reading what some of the fans of SP had to say, they were so negative about FG! they cant compare FG to SP because they're two completely different shows with completely different humor! if they really rip on the show, Seth should do an FG about SP! Family Guy all the way!
hollander (Tue 04 April 2006)
sounds great! im sure they will bash fg up real well lol.
Yay! (Tue 04 April 2006)
The South Park guys have expressed their hate for Family Guy for a while. I hope people start to realize just how bad Family Guy is after this episode. Family Guy is the most manipulative poorly-written laziest humor in existence. Don't try to refute that. Find me one comedian lazier than Seth MacFarlane.
Bob (Tue 04 April 2006)
I'm a fan of both shows and this South Park episode sounds really interesting. Even if they rip on Family Guy, so what? I've loved South Park for a long time, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with all of Matt Stone and Trey Parker's opinions.
mark (Tue 04 April 2006)
Family guy is the best. much beter than south park.
lewin (Tue 04 April 2006)
seems hypocritical for them to always mock family guy for plagiarism and then do an episode about another TV show
Curtis Jackson (Tue 04 April 2006)
South Park ripped on Simpons, and Simpsons made fun of them. The same thing is going to happen with Family Guy and South Park.
Bob (Tue 04 April 2006)
You want one comedian lazier? How about Bobcat Goldthwait? Seriously, that guy hasn't done anything! Poorly written? Um, it's the only show that can take cultural references from any era and apply them in a comedic fashion, where as South Park, well, their references are pretty shallow.
Robert (Tue 04 April 2006)
Ive been a South Park fan since the beginning and that show has been exellent ever since. When Family Guy first started it was pretty good and I became a fan, then it died. Then a bunch of nerds, stupid girls, and any other form of ignorant teenager(a.k.a. Napolean Dynamyte fans) who didnt even watch it when it was on fox, blew it up, played it out, and made it gay. THEN it comes back and its just not as good as before, they try to hard when they really dont need to. The two shows have the same humor just different executions. South Park takes the takes a joke,
they make it their storyline and they stick to it. Family Guy likes to halfass up themselves a story and then throw in a bunch of random jokes. The point is; compared to South Park, Family Guy looks really sloppy and they were bound to cross paths one day and SP deserves to throw the first stone.
Zach (Tue 04 April 2006)
As a fan of both South Park and Family Guy, I cannot wait for this episode. South Park has always ripped on pop culture and they've always done this in hilarious ways. So the fact that South Park will be making fun of Family Guy, my favorite show, is great.

Oh, and to all of those upset that South Park is making fun of Family Guy... Don't worry about it. Family Guy will make fun of 50+ things in every episode. I'm pretty sure that Seth and the other writers can take crap just as good as they dish it out.
Truth. (Tue 04 April 2006)
People that make a show which bases all of its humor around parodying current events doesn't really have the right to bash a show that bases much of its humor on popular culture.

Neither one of them are very "original" in that context and both are "lazy" in that they rely heavily on shit floating out there in the public sphere.

The simple fact is that Trey & Matt have a hard time being the no.2 "edgy' cartoon makers.

It's just like when John K. Dissed Butch Hartman.

It's jealousy and sour grapes
tits0plenti (Tue 04 April 2006)
south park has lame humor and awful animation. matt and trey have no class at all!
otis (Tue 04 April 2006)
Well, Southpark is a worthless show and the opinions expressed by its writers are the opinions of idiots.

Ps. I don't like family guy.
Jimmy (Wed 05 April 2006)
I am one of the biggest Family Guy fans and I can't wait for this episode of South Park...I was a late bloomer with South Park but love the show now. I think doing this episode, even if SP is gonna smash FG, is gonna make for some great moments and jokes. The two shows are completely different, yet aimed at the same audience. This could be one of the best episodes if they do it right.
Matt (Wed 05 April 2006)
i'll have to agree with "yay!". i mean many of the episodes have about 7 minutes worth of random scenes. it may be funny but the stories arnt well written and sometimes even suck, but the humor saves it from being 100% crap episodes.
Numbers (Wed 05 April 2006)
Todd Barry? He sounds lazy.

On to the "war", south park usually provides both sides of any issue. Take the recent chef episode, although chef seems like he betrayed them...which he did...they said not to remember him by his final action but the legacy he left behind...pretty nice way to see the Isaac Hayes issue. Wallmart episode showed how Walmart is great for buying anything but bad for surrounding mom and pop businesses. Back to the NAMBLA episode, it showed how NAMBLA is “innocent” but they’re just really messed up people.

I could go on and on but we can’t really say anything until the episode airs. I love both shows and I hope Matt and Trey don’t rip Family Guy apart. I’m sure we’re going to hear some personal attacks but it shouldn’t be theme of the episode.
Daveyboy (Wed 05 April 2006)
Otis if you don't like Family Guy, WHY are you on this website? Usually when I don't care for something I tend to avoid it as well as sites that focus on it. Do we need somebody to pay attention to us? Lonely? Bored? Just like argueing? Sounds to me like you just enjoy complaining.
Butterz (Wed 05 April 2006)
Family Guy is the best show ever.I cant see why every one hates it.Cartman sucks for hating family guy, but kyle is cool.
odb (Wed 05 April 2006)
I think it's great! I can't wait to see the show, I even plan to tape it! All the people who are upset with SP need a reality check! Would Matt & Trey even bother to make a FG reference if FG wasn't an extremely popular show! Hell no! The fact they are making an entire episode about FG speaks volumes about how well FG is doing in the ratings! Thanks Matt, Thanks Trey, we didn't even know you cared!
Zoom (Wed 05 April 2006)
To the person saying South Park is #2 in edgy cartoons, what? South Park has higher ratings and is a vastly superior comedy.

Family Guy's great and all, but I can't wait for this South Park.
Al (Wed 05 April 2006)
This is gonna be entertaining. I'm just gonna get pissed when I have to hear it from my friend who's a huge South Park fan and hates Family Guy.
Ed (Wed 05 April 2006)
Family Guy is the funniest cartoon on TV (and probably one of the funniest shows). I chalk the South Park guys' hate for it up to plain old jealousy.
Matt French Guy (Wed 05 April 2006)
Well I just watched the episode and I cant wait to see part 2. Whatever it is, it probably wasnt supposed to get out to the public. They said at the end of the episode something to the effect of "will we find out next week or will comedy central puss out and not air it".
I've got 3 guesses as to what they would be saying about the staff that shouldnt get out.
1. The staff are all Scientologists or some other screwball cult.
2. The staff are all Government agents and the show is a cheap propaganda tool.
3. The staff are all blasted on LSD 24/7.

Can't wait for the next ep...
Nope, can't wait...
John (Wed 05 April 2006)
I think Family Guy was genius in its first three seasons. Season four has had a few gems, but I am less then impressed. Most of the new episodes make the Simpsons appear to be a funny show. South Park, on the other hand, never ceases to shock me and make me laugh on its vile, bold, and accurate (well, most of the time accurate) commentary on society. Family Guy was incredible in the earlier episodes of making plot points insanely ridiculous and making it even more ridiculous than that with more obscure pop culture references then you can shake a stick at. Now, it's a lazy, crass sitcom for the sake of crassness, not random humor. South Park I still watch since it is crass in its nihilstic mocking of society.
John (Wed 05 April 2006)
That's the word! "Lazy". Family Guy started off as genius, but it has drifted off into laziness. South Park began in laziness and has escalated into sophisticated crass hilarity.
Sparky (Wed 05 April 2006)
Everything that was said by Cartman in this episode was exactly right. Family Guy is completely sloppy and loosely thrown together. It's like a poorly written high school essay every week. Plus Seth McFarland plagiarizes humor left and right, take for example www.thebestpageintheuniverse.com. Seth has dipped into that well more than once, it's ridiculous. South Park is always on beat; they make a satirical episode of the most current events every week. How is that shallow? Family Guy may be able to take something from any era, but that’s not South Park’s aim. And for those that say they are aimed at the same audience, BS. South Park is much more of an intelligent comedy than Family Guy. Look at the people who have commented, terrible grammar, misspelled words, etc. Family Guy can be enjoyed to it's full potential by a simpleton (or a twelve year-old). That’s not to say that everyone who watches it is simple minded, it’s just to prove a point.
mondo (Wed 05 April 2006)
Just watched the ep. The only real shot they took at Family Guy was about the flashbacks and cutaways that Seth and the writers always use. It's true, the writers use cutaways and flashbacks a lot, but that doesn't mean they're not funny.

For the record, I like both shows.
Jeff (Wed 05 April 2006)
South Park is easily better than Family Guy.

Enough said.
John tyler (Wed 05 April 2006)
This a damn Family guy site and half the comments are against FG.
South Park is just a better show.
kyle (Wed 05 April 2006)
I just saw the episodes and I thought it was great. The thing is i thinks both are great shows, but i watch south park for satire and a good plot and family guy for random humor or funny lines
Megs (Wed 05 April 2006)
Personally, I think that this is Trey and Matt's way of recognizing a fellow awesome animator, Seth.
matt (Thu 06 April 2006)
you all need to look at the "ripping" on family guy it is really about comedey central pulling the scientolgy episode and how if they let one religous group bitch then all of them are gonna bitch and if they try to start pleasing everyone then the show will be over. and i think they just used family guy to illusrate their point and how family guy got cancelled when it was one of fox's best shows
Variant (Thu 06 April 2006)
come on ..... show muhammed !!!

do it!!!

then family , the simpsons, and all the other "edgy" cartoons should follow suite and feature their own muhammed episodes.
H (Thu 06 April 2006)
South Park is fantastically brilliant and everything it says about Family Guy, Family Guy deserves. Honestly, Family Guy is just a bunch of random, interchangeable jokes that are only funny because of how random and inappropriate they are. I think television audiences deserve more than that - they deserve actual plotlines and shows with actual messages. Like South Park.
this guy (Thu 06 April 2006)
FG does lots of random humor with some political humor; SP does lots of political humor with some random humor. MacFarlane & crew don't take themselves too seriously, Matt & Trey take themselves too seriously...the piano-music-cause-kids'-about-to -make-a-statement gets alittle tired. South Park has gotten funny again in recent seasons...they need to stay away from being too self-righteous, and they'll be good. They're different shows for different audiences...the comments on the cartoon row are great, but the comments on FG just make them look bitter.
carl (Thu 06 April 2006)
i was expecting more. South park used kid gloves when they handled family guy. All they made fun of was that family guy's jokes are random. Thats why i watch family guy. I think people who dont like family guy and call it stupid are the people who dont get the jokes. Family guy dosent take the viewers hand and lead them through each punchline. Family guy even made fun of that when they referenced some guy and they cut to the guy and he said "you dont even know who i am". Bottom line, you gotta know more to appreciate family guy more.
Mauricio (Thu 06 April 2006)
I cant beleive it. I love both shows and i dont understand why everyone is picking at family guy? first The Simpsons now south park. Leave them alone!!!!!!
drummer (Thu 06 April 2006)
totally different types of comedy, i love southpark and their take on pop culture/controversy but no show makes me laugh like family guy. just finished watching the episode, i was actually expecting better.
chris (Thu 06 April 2006)
i saw this episode and laughed my ass off. anyone who saw it could obviously see that the writers of south park were using family guy to rip on themselves. all that shit about taking it off the air and how offensive it is was just a way to make fun of their own show. they used family guy as an example to show what they are going through on south park right now with all the controversy surrounding Isaac Hayes leaving and that scientology episode being pulled at the last minute. Cartman's hated of Family Guy and his loathing for being compared to it is something that the south park writers probably go through all the time. both shows and very controversial, edgy, and take shit from the media all the time. however they are 2 completely different shows and to group them together simply because they are both offensive cartoons isn't right. family guy has a very sarcastic humor that is almost always based on intellgent though. south park is a show that in recent years has focued on many important social issues in our society and has chosen to joke about these situations to then in the end make a very strong and intelligent point about the issue. i thought the writers of South Park were brilliant for making this episode and anyone with a brain and respect for either show can see how genius this was
Joe (Thu 06 April 2006)
Just saw the episode. SP is taking shots at what makes FG the show that it is - random humor. Who would have thought Matt and Trey lacked the depth to appreciate this humor? I am going to do my best to consider the episodes an homage - despite the fact that SP has been around a lot longer than FG. Sigh...
Alex (Thu 06 April 2006)
I love the mean spirited comedy of both shows, so naturally I'd enjoy them going at each other's throats. Competition will only make both their writing better anyway.
Krass (Thu 06 April 2006)
Well, I just watched the episode, and I must say that it was pretty good. Although I am a huge family guy fan, I still thought that the south park episode was pretty good. Besides, South Park pokes fun at everything else, so its no surprise that Family was going to be in there somewhere. Oh, snd they didnt bash on fg too hard, so its all alright (they mainly made fun of the way that all of the fg jokes have nothing to do with the plot itself)
Sammy (Thu 06 April 2006)
OK, now that I have seen the episode, I have to say I am pretty pleased. I love both shows, and have been watching SP since I was very young when it first came out. for this episode, you could tell Trey was putting his personal feelings in there when Cartman was saying how people would come up to him and tell him his humor was like Family Guy. that was a little mean because he was saying how his jokes were better. I think comedy central didnt want them showing more than they already did, and for that, I love comedy central! also, in the episode they said that family guy makes fun of religions and stuff, but SP does too and probably more extreme! but being a huuuuuge fan of both shows, it wasnt as bad as I thought and it wasnt too negative...
ashley (Thu 06 April 2006)
honestly, i like family guy, but the things south park said were spot on. if you say otherwise, you're in denial. also, i love how immature some people are about this episode. oooh no, family guy's bettermehmehmeh. *rolls eyes* just shut up and buy your god damn stewie shirts from hot topic.
rob (Thu 06 April 2006)
hahahahahha.That was sooooooo funny.
FG and SP fan (Thu 06 April 2006)
do matt and trey really hate family guy?? they surely must have a better sense of humor than that. then again, their show isn't nearly as funny, it's just interesting because of the socially relevant material. This smells of jealousy for sure. they know when something's funny - and they know FG is funnier.
Peakinho (Thu 06 April 2006)
milk milk lemoneade around the corner is where fudge is made
Jessica (Thu 06 April 2006)
Family Guy is Great, and I never miss an episode, but it is fairly obvious, (to everyone I know) that SP is just a more thought provoking, and more intelligently written show. Family Guys’ humor (just like Matt and Trey pointed out) is not usually relevant to the storyline and is somewhat interchangeable throughout every episode, but as a fan of both shows I know that satire is the most exceptional form of flattery. Family Guy and South Park fans should be happy with the episode.
Muddy (Thu 06 April 2006)
Family Guy is funny but Matt and Trey hit the nail on the head with some of their parody clips:

"Hey Brian, this is like the time I got a job as a carrot cake."
Laura (Thu 06 April 2006)
The person who said that South Park was using Family Guy to rip on themselves was spot on. Family Guy never aired an image of Muhammed, but South Park did in Season 5. No one thought much of it then.

I've listened to all of the Family Guy commentaries on the DVD. Seth and co actually mention Trey and Matt and how they respect that they can get out their stuff so fast. I'm sure last night they were all sitting around, watching the show like we were, and having a good laugh.

Satire is one of the biggest forms of flattery.
Vistian (Thu 06 April 2006)
I gotta say the episode last night was pretty damn good. I didnt really see or hear anything before hand, so it took me a couple of minutes to ascertain that it was in no way a tribute. I think they got a bit harsh, but even so, hilarious! Family Guy does have interchangeable jokes that have nothing to do with the plot, but so what, they're funny. All I want to do is laugh.
seatroit (Thu 06 April 2006)
looks like most of you didn't get it...they weren't ripping Family Guy...if anything, they paid homage to it...they were actually using Family Guy as a representation of South Park...2-part FG?..2-part SP?...they were talking about their own show...substitute Fox for CC
Travis (Thu 06 April 2006)
Alot of my friends love FAMILY GUY. I'm sorry I just can't get into it. On the other hand SouthPArk lost me years ago but over the last year they dragged me back in. South Park nailed it on Family Guy.HAnds down SothPArk has better writing and watching Family Guy is watching a train wreck of comedy.
tjal (Thu 06 April 2006)
This SP episode is awesome. I thought that it's coming to an end, as the second part of 9th season was really, really poor. But this epised killed me. I love FG and I love SP, but now I'm really confused which I love most ;-)
I think FG has more to do with Monty Python's Flying Circus as IMO their jokes were also irrelevant as FG's are. South Park is more about people in general, FG is about
American media and TV abuse.
tim (Thu 06 April 2006)
if you watched the episode you know that south park is right in its views on family guy. But if you watcj either show you shouldnt take anything to seriously. I love both shows and loved the episode. Also i dont think trey and matt would hate family guy as much if people didnt constantly compare them.
Dan (Thu 06 April 2006)
A brief recap of the cartoon wars: The Simpsons has ripped on both FG and SP, but FG and SP have paid homage to the Simpsons. Now, SP has ripped on FG, so the next logical step would be for FG to rip on SP. I realize that Matt & Trey can churn out an episode in a week, but unfortunately I don't see a quick retaliatory episode from Seth & Co. I hope they do something though.

Side note: SP rox, but FG does action movie parodies way better. That big-wheel chase scene from the last SP show was awesome, but not even close to the killer chicken action scenes from FG.
Alonzo Culzac (Thu 06 April 2006)
I wonder if SP will make fun of Seth MacFarlene himself in next week's episode?
ryan (Thu 06 April 2006)
South Park is a great show and way better than Family Guy. I like Family Guy, just not as much as South Park. It's obvious though that Matt and Trey are only pissed off at Family Guy because people keep comparing the two shows. Family Guy is for high school stoners (which is the reason for the random crap).
richard (Thu 06 April 2006)
Now, i think south park is extremly clever, well done and very funny. But in comedy and jokes, it doesnt even comare to family guy. What i hate is when people claim to be too sophisticated for family guy so they watch south park. Since when was having a recurring character be a talking poo "smart tv." I don't take offence to SP making fun of FG, but i would like to see FG take on SP next time.
Anon (Thu 06 April 2006)
A large part of Family Guy's humor is for simple-minded people. Peter fighting a Chicken for about 2-3 minutes? Yeah that's hysterical. Really. Family Guy has maybe 3 decent jokes in a whole 25 minute episode. SNL can be funnier than FG at times....that's BAD. SP is just better written and funnier.
Teresa (Thu 06 April 2006)
i don't mean to sound negative but i can't believe they did that well i love family guy and i really dont watch south park so i guess i'll probly never watch south park again because that episode reallly pissed me off!
Jason (Thu 06 April 2006)
SP is great, but FG is better. If the comedy in SP is a rifle, then the comedy in FG is a machine gun. SP takes a whole episode to hammer out one joke when most of us FG viewers get the joke after the first 5 minutes. FG's episodes barrage the viewer with tons of plot relevant satire AND random jokes for good measure, that span past, present and future events. SP...eh...mostly sticks to contemporary issues. Sorry SP viewers...but you asked for it.
HUH (Thu 06 April 2006)
The attack was not on FG, because the ep is basically a kudos to FG. Remember, the "bad guy" Cartman is the one bad-mouthing FG, while the "good guy" Stan is a fan (he Tivos every episode). The attack is more centered on the stupid idea about religious fanatics actually comitting violence because of a cartoon. I am sure not all Muslims feel the need to commit violence, but the ones that get on the media do.

The setup for the next episode would be for SP to actually show Mohammed, although we don't have any idea as of yet how they are going to present him. The dare is that SP creators will make the episode, and they will see if the powers that be allow it to go on air.
2true! (Thu 06 April 2006)
You guys are all nuts! Both shows are off-the-scale fantastic in their own way, jus cos they are both animated? Hardly grounds for a FG Vs SP war! Personally, SP has the bigger shock factor where FG just makes me laugh till it hurts! Love both shows, i hope they never ever stop..
Family Guy Dude mang (Thu 06 April 2006)
hmmm, Bad move by south park, although trey and matt are very talented and funny, I think Seth will slap them around in thier retaliation episode. Family guy is much funnier. I hope they make southpark look stupid for what they did. I love both shows, but I got family guys back in this one.
Family Guy Dude mang (Thu 06 April 2006)
hmmm, Bad move by south park, although trey and matt are very talented and funny, I think Seth will slap them around in thier retaliation episode. Family guy is much funnier. I hope they make southpark look stupid for what they did. I love both shows, but I got family guys back in this one.
haben (Thu 06 April 2006)
I like both South Park and Family Guy. I think the satire of family Guy was hilarious. This was not a tribute to Family Guy. It was a total bashing of it. Matt/Trey are represented by Cartman in this episode (in his hatred of the lacadaisacal style and irrelevance of the humor of family guy).

They are known to hate being compared to family guy. Read this entry on wikipedia for more info of this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Family_Guy

It is interesting though how you can read this also as another probe into the scientology pull off the air etc (will comedy central have the balls to air it?). The multifaceted bashing of many things is characteristic of Trey/Matt's genious. Brilliant.
Joe S. (Thu 06 April 2006)
Some people have written how South Park episodes have messages and is much more intelligent when compared to Family Guy. I remember an episode of South Park where Cartman decided to eat food by shoving it up his butt and then going to the bathroom through his mouth. Most members of the town started to do the same until they realized how disgusting and wierd it was. My point is how is this intelligent comedy and what important social issue is this commentary on?
Vega (Thu 06 April 2006)
I don't know if SP is really such a "intelligent" kind of cartoon.These "YOU DUMB and SILLY society"-humor is in someway boring me (but i still love it!^^),but just let 4 kids seem like the most intelligent creatures in america , who handel the future of america in every second episode is not funny anymore or new. I would say SP stucked in it's own little universe and get more boring every episode.I mean OK family guy never had a deep-reaching kind of humor, but i bet that everyone would laugh about atleast one joke in FG if he watches it! And i think cartoons with a message are good as well,but c'mon cartoons are for fun not just for a "political-correctness-mood".

(by the way sorry for sure done writing-mistakes i dont live in an english speaking country^^)
greets
drew (Thu 06 April 2006)
in response to the person who wondered how poop coming out of you mouth is intelligent, they must now have seen the episode. Everyone in the episode was becoming an Atheist (this was around the time that they wanted God out of the pledge of allegiance), so they were showing that Atheists don't know what they're talking about. therefore, when the only thing that comes out of their mouth is poop, both literal and metaphorical. either way both shows are awesome in their own right.
Markoloni (Thu 06 April 2006)
Family guy does make me laugh, but I can totally see the perspective of South Park and other entertainment industry pros who find family guy to be poorly animated (John K. of Ren and Stimpy) and simply written (South Park and Simpsons staffs). When they did their own version of Family Guy on South Park, it was eerily similar, essentially proving the above two points. The family guy bashing, however is an industry argument. On the hand of the viewers, I think its safe to say that most of us agree that they're all entertaining programs, South Park, Simpsons, Ren and Stimpy, and Family Guy alike.
matt (Thu 06 April 2006)
ok i have read everyone's post and only a hand full are getting it....they are ripping on cc for not standing up for them because cc was a horible network before sp. they were not rippin on fg the only reason cartman hated it was cause people told him what he should like there was no ripping that was not intended with south park you have always have to read between the lines yes there are many episodes with nothing but toliet humor but as of late with cc cenoring them and not letting them do their thing (which is rip on riduclous behavior) they have to make it more saticical than ever before..they used family guy as their example because they are cut from the same fabric..the whole point was to slap cc in the face did not you watch the whole episode where at the end they said tune in next week to see if cc will puss out if they were gonna keep with their theme they would have said fox not cc that was to let everyone know that it was about themsleves and not fg they could have used the simpsons but the simpsons have gotten less and less offensive over the year and fg similar to sp are not willing to comprises..those are the only 2 shows in recent years that are unwilling to do so.
matt (Thu 06 April 2006)
and to the guy asking what social commentary the shoving food up their butt and pooping out their mouth means...well that was an episode ripping on the riduclous crap that had been in the new about the catholics and how people were doing and saying stupid things....thus the end of the show where stans dad says something like if you believe everything on tv then you will just start craping out of your mouth
Matt (Thu 06 April 2006)
Why is everone saying that sp is jealous of fg? sp has been on the air for 10 seasons and they are still making hilarious episodes, while family guy is in their what..?? 4th season? and are already running out of jokes. "brian this is like the time I got a job as a carrot cake" genius
Shadow Ferret (Thu 06 April 2006)
I used to like Family Guy, but then the jokes got old, and everyone started quoting it. I don't like how the Family Guy writers can just think of a funny situation, like "Remember that time I forgot how to sit down?!" Maybe it would be funny if you actually made some relevence to the story then going off on a flashback. South Park beats Family Guy, hands down. And I used to be a die-hard Family Guy fan.
Big Kev (Thu 06 April 2006)
I don't think they even were making fun of Family Guy. All of the boys represent Trey and Matt, and it seemed to me that they were saying that they like Family Guy (via Kyle) but that they dislike comparisons of the two shows (via Cartman) They're both great, but I could see how comparisons would annoy Matt and Trey
sheffutd (Thu 06 April 2006)
Joe. S. The actions on episode you refer to on the first message of this page is a joke on how when people start talking about christianity too seriously they start spewing crap out of their mouths....i.e they talk sh*t.
Tim (Thu 06 April 2006)
So it's agreed then. Seth Mcfarlane is a lazy writer and Trey Parker and Matt Stone are prima donnas.
Arrrrr (Thu 06 April 2006)
I'm sorry, but if you guys can't see that this episode totally dissed FG then you probably aren't too bright. They OUTRIGHT BASHED the show.
mike hunt (Thu 06 April 2006)
look man i <3 both shows, n i just wanna see FG's comeback and SP's second part next wednesday and figure out what's up with those FG writers!... and the muhamed censorship thing.
Lain (Thu 06 April 2006)
To all the people who didn't realise that South Park weren't ripping on Family Guy but rather themselves... You are all idiots.
Anonymous (Thu 06 April 2006)
The only reason that South Park put on Family Guy in their episode is so they get more viewers. Family Guy is so much better. Keep up the good work, Seth.
nick (Thu 06 April 2006)
Just for south park attempting to make fun of family the family guy creators should just trash south park with one solid episode.
duke (Thu 06 April 2006)
How can Seth be lazy? He does two incredibly funny shows. American Dad keeps getting better and better.
Matt (Thu 06 April 2006)
All the people that are complaining about South Park ripping on Family Guy totally missed the point of the episode and shouldn't be allowed to watch anything more sophisticated than Dora the Explorer. They were using Family Guy (as it is known to push the envelope and be offensive just like South Park)as a means to express their displeasure with the mass media and their pandering to censorship for special interest groups. Just like Cartman said in the episode, once they give in to one group's demands of censorship where will it stop? Yea they took a couple of shots at FG but it was not the main point. Yea, Matt and Trey might not like being compared to FG but in reality, what they are doing is attempting to defend the first amendment rights of all forms of media; from South Park and Family Guy to the Times and even that Danish newspaper that started this whole debacle.
Awesome (Thu 06 April 2006)
Its not like family guy doesnt do that to other shows, Family Guy makes fun of just about every show known. This is the first time someone made fun of them, and i think its retarted how some people are acting. Family Guy is a great show, but every show gets made fun of, no reason to kill yoursef. Oh yea and by the way to HUH on Thursday, April 6, 2006 14:50: (fifth post) the good guy is Kyle,
Dan (Thu 06 April 2006)
this is a response to Joe S.
that episode where everyone was pooping out their mouths had another plot about Catholicism, and about how priests shouldn't have sex with little boys. the parents were all afraid of their children being molested that they all turned athiest. then at the end when they were giving other outlandish reasons for being athiests, the poop coming from their mouths represented bullshit. the one good priest talking about how the catholics have gotten away from the basic principles of their faith was the important social commentary of that particular episode.
Tanya (Thu 06 April 2006)
I really didn't view this episode as a Family Guy vs. Southpark episode. If that's how you viewed it you missed the whole point of message they were trying to send.

I agree with Chris who posted "i saw this episode and laughed my ass off. anyone who saw it could obviously see that the writers of south park were using family guy to rip on themselves"

I thought it was very intelligent and clever use of Family guy to expose their views that people are overly-sensative to cartoons.

Episode was great, and I look forward to the next. I love both shows!
shawn hoffman (Thu 06 April 2006)
south park's writing is pretty good most of the time, but its poorly animated and is a lot less quoteable. Theres only so many times you wanna hear "Oh my god they killed kenny". family guy might have interchangeable jokes that aren't always in context, but it also has diverse set of characters, south park has 4 children who have almost similar personalities (the exception being cartman) and family guy has characters who can make jokes to tickle anyone's sence of humor. being anywhere on the spectrum from chris and peter's simple potty humor to brian's intellectual satire. In my opinion Family guy is much better, but south park did pave the way for family guy and deserves respect.
SM (Thu 06 April 2006)
Family Guy and South Park shouldn't be compared because they are A. two completely different types of animation, B. two completely different takes on humor and C. two completely different networks. Everyone praises South Park for being "politcal" and riffing on current events. Well yeah, they have that option because the episodes are computer animated and an episode can be produced in 6-days. Family Guy is a completely different kind of animation and an episode cannot be produced nearly as fast. Comedy Central also allows South Park to produce their episodes as the season progresses, to allow them to stay current. Family Guy does not have that option. Fox orders a season full of episodes, and Family Guy has to deliver those episodes all at once. They can't make a new episode every week, and instead have to make three or four months worth of episodes at once, and deliver them together. Fox is not Comedy Central. That's just the way it is. People need to stop praising South Park for being "current" as if that makes it a better show. Being current has nothing to do with the type of humor or how well the shows are made. It just means that the content has some relevance to current events. Who cares? Yay, social commentary. There are plenty of blogs and comedians who do social commentary better, and are much funnier, than South Park. I don't watch cartoons to keep up on current events. I watch them to forget about all the crap going on in the world. I don't need my cartoons reminding me of how intolerant the world is or how screwed up celebrities are. And several people have mentioned that the shows give two totally different perspectives on humor. This is important. It's easy to see that Family Guy is heavily influenced by Monty Python, and that's a GOOD thing. People say "the humor is random" ...well yeah, that's why it's funny. It's also what makes Monty Python the undisputed masters of comedy. I don't hear anyone saying "I don't like Monty Python because it's random" because THAT'S THE POINT. It's random because THEY WANT IT TO BE. It's also why Monty Python, Family Guy, and most of the shows on Adult Swim are so hilarious. People say it like it's an accident that Family Guy is random. If they didn't want it to be, it wouldn't be. The show is exactly what they want, and it's damn funny. If you don't like random comedy, then don't watch the show. How hard is that? Who cares? Family Guy sure as hell isn't hurting for fans, and I'm sure Seth and Co. wouldn't care if someone who didn't like the show didn't watch. Record DVD sales and impressive ratings on RERUNS made Family Guy the first show of its kind to be brought back after being cancelled. Family Guy manages to tell interesting stories, be hilarious, and still manage to offer a unique and original perspective on pop-culture and American society. South Park relies on current events to spin allegorical tales, and throws in some crude, gross-out, and at times purposely offensive material so they appear "edgy" ...when in reality it's only a ploy to stay on the air as long as possible doing the same exact thing as Family Guy by offering a unique perspective on the events they weave into the show. If all they do is riff on current events, then how is the show supposed to come to a logical end? Seems to me like that is the point. They don't want it to ever end, because they know as well as anyone that there are only so many ways you can offend people before they get bored, or annoyed to the point of not caring. Sure it can be funny, but if being funny is all that mattered, a lot of great shows would still be on the air that aren't.
Gary (Thu 06 April 2006)
People are getting up in arms over 2 cartoons?
jim (Thu 06 April 2006)
The show sort of ripped on Family Guy, and they were right seeing as Family Guy is basically a big series of one-liners and dated pop-culture references. Though they did make a point that they didn't want to be compared to Family Guy anymore, the clear theme of the show was the Danish cartoons that caused all the riots and how America has not necessarily shown its support of free speech because of fear of retaliation. Really, though Family Guy is the medium through which Trey and Matt are arguing that America should defend free speech even if it is difficult at time, it is still just a subplot. I like both shows, but they are completely different brands of humor and shouldn't really be compared. The only way South Park seems even remotely similar to Family Guy is if you take it at face value and don't look into the themes at all.
josh (Fri 07 April 2006)
Joe S., you completely missed the point of the food-up-the-butt episode. The point was that people who choose to reject faith, and express this rejection by constantly trashing those who embrace it, usually end up talking sh*t. More specifically, the message was to take religion and the Bible as a nice set of guidelines to live by, without necessarily adhering to the antequated and outdated tenets of the organized faith. All that being said, you kind of have to see where the SP guys are coming from here. I personally love both shows for very different reasons; FG is basically a pop-culture-based show, and SP a current events show. Both are fine in my eyes, both say different things, and both are entertaining. I would wait until the conclusion of this 2-part series before I get all pissy and defensive. Besides, at least they gave props to FG for being offensive once in a while.
josh (Fri 07 April 2006)
Joe S., you completely missed the point of the food-up-the-butt episode. The point was that people who choose to reject faith, and express this rejection by constantly trashing those who embrace it, usually end up talking sh*t. More specifically, the message was to take religion and the Bible as a nice set of guidelines to live by, without necessarily adhering to the antequated and outdated tenets of the organized faith. All that being said, you kind of have to see where the SP guys are coming from here. I personally love both shows for very different reasons; FG is basically a pop-culture-based show, and SP a current events show. Both are fine in my eyes, both say different things, and both are entertaining. I would wait until the conclusion of this 2-part series before I get all pissy and defensive. Besides, at least they gave props to FG for being offensive once in a while.
Brian (Fri 07 April 2006)
People, Matt Stone and Trey Parker are tired of morons comparing the two shows. There really is no comparison. Family guy is for pop culture junkies and people with short attention spans and South Park has multi level plots which often both parody US pop culture and make social and political statements. Even those few episodes that seem to have only toilet value humor usually have an underlying meaning that is not fully revealed until the end.

Look, I really love to watch Family Guy. Sometimes you need some completely vacuous, mind numbing humor. Something that doesn’t need a lot of thought. However, I am weekly watching what Matt and Trey have to say because I know it will be intelligent, well thought out, and so much funnier than anything else, plus I still get parodies of stuff from the 80's.

Comparing Family guy to South Park is like comparing Fox News to the Daily Show. It just can't be done intelligently. Not that anyone realizes what an intelligent argument is any more.

Brian
Mobius (Fri 07 April 2006)
To be honest, I really enjoy both. But I am a die hard South Park fanatic. Every point they made about Family Guy is completely irrefutable.

"*Blank*? Like that time I *Blank*?" *Random flashback*.

That happens at least 6 times in every episode. It's insanely hilarious, but at the same time, embarassing. How about this: compare the South Park movie to the Family Guy "movie" and then consider which is better written. I know South Park is a better show than Family Guy, but it doesn't stop me from enjoying Family Guy. Please, just stop trying to claim that Family Guy is more intelligent.
Minnesota Slim (Fri 07 April 2006)
I personally like FG better than SP, although I do like SP. I think a possible point of view is missing from this so far. The long time voice of "Chef" done by Isaac Hayes on SP is no more. He left the show after all these years because of the Tom Cruise/Scientology episode, because he is a Scientologist and was apparently offended by the episode. SP writers/spokes-people were quoted as saying something like "he never had a problem with all the other spoofs on religions we've done over the last 10 years." While this show's theme was labeled a 'cartoon war,' I think there were some undertones of people being too sensitive about jokes on religion, prompted by the fact that one of their long time characters just bailed because of it. I think they tied it in nicely with a bash/praise (however you choose to look at it) of FG myself, just a theory….
Minnesota Slim (Fri 07 April 2006)
I personally like FG better than SP, although I do like SP. I think a possible point of view is missing from this so far. The long time voice of "Chef" done by Isaac Hayes on SP is no more. He left the show after all these years because of the Tom Cruise/Scientology episode, because he is a Scientologist and was apparently offended by the episode. SP writers/spokes-people were quoted as saying something like "he never had a problem with all the other spoofs on religions we've done over the last 10 years." While this show's theme was labeled a 'cartoon war,' I think there were some undertones of people being too sensitive about jokes on religion, prompted by the fact that one of their long time characters just bailed because of it. I think they tied it in nicely with a bash/praise (however you choose to look at it) of FG myself, just a theory….
Stublore (Fri 07 April 2006)
I think it's a great compliment to Family Guy that it was this show which is used as the vehicle for SP, by "daring" to show a picture of Moohammed. As Kyle says, "it's against THEIR religion" to show pictures. The whole issue of free speech and their spin on how ppl reacted to it shows why this show is still so popular and spot on with their views.
Numbers (Fri 07 April 2006)
Joe S., yes south park has created some retarded episodes. South Park is not 100% intelligent and well thought out. Crab people were terrible. They even made fun of creative that stupid idea a season later when the kids were news reporters trying to generate ideas to create more ratings. Lemmiwinks was a bit pointless but his theme song is hilarious. BTW, they were supposedly going to create an episode dedicated to Lemmiwinks but that didn’t turn out. The episode in season 2 where the kids are stuck on a bus and have flashbacks wasn’t that great. It just dealt with everything ending in ice cream and it was just stan’s dream. The Scott Tenorman wasn’t that smart but was probably one of the most evil and shocking endings on the show. Oh yeah, who can forget Towelie! Worst character ever. Butt-face couple was very immature humor, but humor nonetheless. So south park is going to have its faults but recently they’ve been on a roll to create great episodes. Hopefully they sign another contract because this is their last season under their current contract.
Dave (Fri 07 April 2006)
Family Guy can be funny. But saying it's funnier or better than The Simpsons and South Park is ridiculously ignorant.

P.S. The "Simpsons Did It" episode of South Park was obviously a tribute to the Simpsons, not "ripping on them."
monk (Fri 07 April 2006)
Two completely different types of humor and intelligence go into these shows.

Southpark is "smarter" than Family Guy? Please.

My biggest complaint about Southpark is the preachiness, the "I've learned something today..."

If I want to be preached to I'll go to church.

Am I the only person who finds it unbearably ironic that Parker and Stone had the balls to do an episode on smugness? I hope to god that was subtley ironic self-parody. Seriously, you guys. Seriously.
Bunghole (Fri 07 April 2006)
I think people are missing the point. I don't think Matt and Trey were saying they 'hate' Family Guy, they've obviously watched it enough to make a pretty accurate satire, they were saying that they are pissed with always being 'compared' with FG.

The fact is South Park has better concepts, is better written and has a relevance beyond that of family guy.

That doesn't mean FG is trying to have any significance beyond being a funny show, which is fine, it just means SP is more than it's jokes which are, incidentally, usually much better.
Atjar (Fri 07 April 2006)
Hmmm... hasn't anyone realized yet that Trey Parker is actually the same person as Seth MacFarlane? Seriously, both shows are undoubtedly the two best shows on TV today. Its impossible not to like both of them. Students of contemporary American culture don't have to read any books at all they just have to watch all the South Park episodes. Learn and laugh at the same time. Afterwards they can get high and watch Family Guy.
Huguenot (Fri 07 April 2006)
This episode was not an attack on Family Guy. It was another example of how they use a popular cultural item and appear to attack to make their social commentary on something more relevant. For example, the Return of Chef could have been viewed as an attack on Isaac hayes, however they simply use Chef as a vehicle to make their point about the goofy cult that brainwashed him.

The Cartoon Wars is satirizng the furour over the Danish cartoon and the knee-jerk reaction to it, as well as the mes surrounding the Scientology episode of South Park.

Whether Trey and Matt actually like Family Guy or not, is not really the point. I can see how they may feel that some of the humour in Family Guy is lazy and ireelevant, but I think the point of using Family Guy in this way is more of an attack on those who would pit the two shows against each other.

Why can someone not enjoy both, one, or neither without having something negative to say?
CJ (Fri 07 April 2006)
You can say what you want about SP being more thought provoking, better thought out, etc. But the bottom line is, no matter how off topic the humor is in FG, the show is just plain funnier. Sorry SP fans, but if SP wants to go toe-to-toe with FG in a bashing war, SP is getting TKO'ed.
Charles (Fri 07 April 2006)
Family Guy and South Park are both great shows. I like South Park a bit more. There is much greater character development, rivalry amongst characters, and plot than in FG. I love how SP is able to bring out the absurdity in all religious and political issues their shows are based on. As far as making fun of FG goes, I'm really not sure. one can take it as a bashing on FG and one can take it as a compliment.
Joe (Fri 07 April 2006)
It's obvious from a lot of these comments that people don't understand satire. Symbolism and such. That's where South Park is genius; in it's symbolism and satire. Even the crapping out the mouth episode has much deeper symbolic meanings. But some can't see it. Oh well.
Chicken (Fri 07 April 2006)
The intelligence behind Red Hot Catholic Love (where Cartman craps out his mouth) was that Catholics need to get more in touch with the real world and that the real world needs religion "After all, without religion in their lives they'll just go around spewing a bunch of crap out of their mouths." And that was that episode's whole joke. The comparison to a rifle for South Park's joke mechanism there is spot on.

They are both great shows, and each one is interchangably my favorite show on TV. Sometimes its nice to watch a potty mouthed show that has message with its sattiracle humor and hillarious social commentary. Sometimes its nice to not be preached to and loose yourself to a new Peter fighting the Chicken episode. Their core demographic overlaps same audience but they are not the same show. And neither is 'better' than the other outright, and there is no shame in liking either one more. The big message had to deal with the slippery slope they are on, first Scientology wanted an episode pulled then the Catholics wanted an episode pulled (Bloody Mary), and now they are going to show Mohammed again in their second part to see if the Muslims can get CC to pull it before it's even aired. The other message was about defending the Freedom of Speech with our lives instead of just burying our head in the sand. The Family Guy message was the minor one of the episode: South Park isn't Family Guy and people shouldn't compare the two, the writers, creators, etc... don't appreciate being lumped into a category with it. But it is a good show none the less(per Stan and Kyle).
Brandon (Fri 07 April 2006)
Both shows are wonderful, but I honestly feel South Park ripping on Family Guy for doing the same thing South Park does (pop culture references) is idiotic. Sure, South Park does not tell the joke as fast, but it is the exact same style of comedy. How can they even take shots when they have entire episodes revolving around Barbara Streisand and Michael Jackson?
Sean (Fri 07 April 2006)
I have been a SP fan for the duration of the show, and have only been with FG for about a year. But its clear to me that Matt and Trey were quite correct in their commentary on the lazy, random humor that is reflected in FG's flashbacks. Sure, they are hilarious at times but they are mostly irrellevant and soon forgotten. And sure, SP has its moments of low brow humor (e.g. Mr. Hanky), but its mostly tied into a cutting social commentary (e.g. religious holidays, self-important celebs, etc).
devin (Fri 07 April 2006)
you are all no better than isaac hayes, these issues south park tackles are hardly meant to be taken seriously. I think it was cartmen in the episode who said you'd have to be an idiot to take offense to a cartoon. And as i recall seth took no offense to the little simpsons incident. It's all entertainment, relax, do you think trey and matt really want to create war?
Dizzy (Fri 07 April 2006)
The rip on family guy was sweet and totally accurate in its criticisms. The point of the show was that Family Guy does have a "totally different sense of humor," which is basically to include as many arbitrary, smug pop culture references as possible. I didn't think the episode was the funniest SP ever, but I could really relate to the scene with Stan, Kyle and Cartman watching FG. Stan and Kyle thought everything was so funny, cartman just roles his eyes and says, "meh". That's kinda how I feel, everybody seems to think the show is so funny and smart nad just like the Simpsons (used to be, they suck now too).
Fubu (Fri 07 April 2006)
Joe S. -> If I remember well, this episode was a brilliant critic about the Catholic Church and how the Vatican didn't adapt to the modern society. It was also about those stories of priests molesting children. The point of the "crapping by the mouth" thing was this:
<< People are losing faith because they don't see how what you've turned the religion into applies to them! They've lost touch with any idea of any kind of religion, and when they have no mythology to try and live their lives by, well, they just start spewing a bunch of crap out of their mouths! >>

So, yes this important was about intelligent and about an important issue.
harri karri (Fri 07 April 2006)
It's not about bashing FG, its about boundarys.
Whats next to be taken off air due to certain groups taking themselves too seriously.
FG was used as a comparison and to illustrate a point.
There are many FG episodes where the same level of offense could be taken as was in that never to be aired again SP one.
Q.If FG wasn't so popular would it have still been used?
Cartman Griffin (Sat 08 April 2006)
Lets face it, it rocked. Everybody loves Family Guy because of its off topic humor, it's random but awesome! and cartman is perfect for being pissed at it, and Kyle is his nemesis. Someone once asked me who would be more likely to rule the world, Stewie or Cartman. now THATS the fight we need to see.
Mohammad (Sat 08 April 2006)
DO YOU ALL HAVE YOUR HEADS BURRIED IN SAND?!?!

It is clear that this "Cartoon WAR" is about the cartoons of Mohammad, which many people were willing to kill other people over. Hence a war over cartoons. Yet, just like the glorious people of southpark all but three of you on here seem to think its about a war between family guy and southpark. Southpark is just using family guy as a method of talking about its own position. Hence the reference to the two part show. AND if you were listening in the end they asked "Will network executives stand up for free speech?" Or "Will comedy central puss out again?" wait wait wait?!? what is that? ITS A REFERENCE TO THE FACT THAT ITS ALL ABOUT FREE SPEECH IN THE FACE OF THREATS FROM FASCISTS LIKE SCIENTOLOGY AND MILITANT ISLAMISTS.

~Pull Your HEADS OUT OF THE SAND!

~Mohammad
Tex (Sat 08 April 2006)
Comparing FG and SP is ridiculous... Besides the fact that they are both animated comedies, they share very little in common. One plays more on the entertainment world while the other plays more in the political world. I can appreciate why MS and TP get upset by being compared to FG... In fact, Seth can be equally offended by the same comparison. The two have separate agendas and humor styles. Take each for what they are.
weaveR (Sat 08 April 2006)
Why is being irrelevant to the plot a bad thing? A big part of comedy is being unexpected and that’s just a way of being unexpected. I think South Park is just becoming JELOUS because THEY are now becoming expected. They are starting to run out of ideas just as The Simpsons did. Lots of the episodes I’ve watched lately, the whole episode is just everyone running into some building and over exaggerating 1 topic for the whole episode which means if you don't like THE joke on that episode, you got to wait till the next one to have a laugh. I feel it’s just getting tired just as the Kenny dieing thing did and it's time for a new approach.
UnderpantsGnome (Sat 08 April 2006)
HUH is right. Matt and Trey were not attacking FG, they were going after religious nutjobs who spaz over the littlest thing, AND they were going after Comedy Central for pulling "Trapped in a Closet." Did you catch the "will Comedy Central puss out?" at the end of the episode? They didn't say "will Fox puss out?", the said 'Comedy Central'.
JungleBurger (Sat 08 April 2006)
The problem with this episode of South Park is that it's far too preachy, and it wasn't all that funny anyway. South Park is better than Family Guy, sure. Family Guy's jokes are irrelevant, of course. But do we need Trey Parker and Matt Stone shoving their point of view down our throats, more agressively than they normally would? The thing I've always liked about South Park is that the satire is usually very subtle. This is not the case for this episode. I woke up the morning after watching it, and wasn't sure if I dreamed it or if an episode of South Park was really that bad.
David (Sat 08 April 2006)
This is pretty awesome - the writers for both shows are extremely intelligent, and the fact that SP criticized FG is flattering if anything.

Matt and Trey full know that FG will comeback and do something equally as funny giving SP shit. Should be fun to watch
Terra Cognita (Sat 08 April 2006)
Now, why did Trey Parker have to promote this imbecilic puddle of drivel watched by drooling cretins with IQs of 110 - alias "Family Guy"? I have never even heard of "Family Guy" before the latest episode of South Park mentioned it (now, having suffered through almost 3 downloaded and promptly DoD deleted episodes of this garbage, I can predict what the others are... they are just like the 15 second capsule contained in "Cartoon Wars").

Since most of humanity are dolts, I suspect that, sadly, the mention of the TV cancer that is "Family Guy" on South Park will only increase the former's popularity... while truly intelligent animated series such as Futurama or Dilbert shall remain dead.
save stewie (Sun 09 April 2006)
The truth is that people that don't like family guy probably hate it because they don't understand the show is a parody of 80's (mostly)pop culture, therefore making it different to South Park which
happens to parody more recent political events.
Jubjub (Sun 09 April 2006)
the episode is actually pretty layered

it targets the scientology censoring of the scientology episode, it makes reference to outcry and censoring of the Bloody Mary episode, its taking a dig at Family Guy *i was under the impression matt liked the show (as seen through kyle) and Trey didn't (cartman), then theres the parralels to the whole mohammad cartoons issue with free speech etc with their critisism towards how the public/government/media reacted in regards to it (head in sand)

i'm sure there were toher things i probably missed too:)

a little more complicated than a show with plots that are simply used to provide dialogue that will allow for a random (usually funny) joke. Thats the thing with Family Guy, the plot is irrelevant, i like seeing Peter getting trapped in his fantasy book world heh
Cam (Sun 09 April 2006)
FG is far superior than SP. FG has been consistently funny since the beginning. SP has felt forced with few laughs since like four seasons ago (granted FG did have a lot of time off, but its still funny). Maybe it's just me, but I'd pick FG over SP any day of the week, and most people I know feel the same way. That's probably why the SP guys are so mad. People love FG and are bored with SP.
Matt (Sun 09 April 2006)
You took that episode of SP out of context, regarding the "face feculation." It was an allegory towards the increasing complexity of organized religion, and catholicism in general.
Trig (Sun 09 April 2006)
Why all the complaining?

People threatening never to watch South Park again because they ripped on Family Guy?

Do you not see the irony here?

It's all about free speech and some people need to be able to take a joke as a joke.
J. Gavin (Sun 09 April 2006)
Look, I'm not really one to get riled up over cartoons. The only reason that I even checked this site out is to gauge the reaction of people to the episode. The Muhammed thing aside, you have to admit that it totally exposed the Family Guy for what it is: blah plots with interchangeable jokes all centering around some dated pop culture reference. I thought it was funny when the Kool-Aid guy crashed through the wall. Problem is, every joke since then is essentially the same. I would be pissed if I got compared to that as well. South Park, whether you like it or not, takes real chances and talks about real issues. Most importantly it makes it funny, even if it wasn't before. South Park will be remembered as one of the only outlets during this time period that spoke out and made points that were otherwise not heard in the mainstream. They give it to both sides and are the premier social critics of our time. Family Guy simply doesn't hold up. As far as the potty humor goes, Bill Hick himself dropped dick jokes into his show because he knew that not everyone was ready to come with him. I guess you can chalk the food-up-the-butt epsiode to that.
sh4dy (Sun 09 April 2006)
im a huge FG and SP fan got all the DVD's of each and i gotta say Seth although very good is not even in the same league when it comes to plot associated jokes. And if FG was smart they would jus take it for what it was and not retaliate because you know Trey and Matt can bring it alot harder and really piss people off. (Example: Trapped in the Closet and Return of Chef Episode) Both are really good shows and will continue to do well in their own right.
HomerJ (Sun 09 April 2006)
Basically it comes down to this. Family guys humor is totally ridiculous. The plot holes are totally out in the open. Most family guy viewers cant understand a setup and need that quick random joke. Yet u watch The simpsons seasons 2-7 and you'll find so much structure. Family guy TRIES to show intellect by dropping names that most viewers dont know who the hell it is and that have no relevance to the story whatsoever. Also the cut scenes are blatanly long to cover up for the writers inability to fill a scene. If the simpsons had the same quality as it did in the 90's, they wouldve done exactly the same thing south park had done. But because south park has just a little bit of life left, they had the bright idea of taking down a horrible show that just stupifies people beyond any recognition. There is a reason this show was cancelled. originality, its just not there.
Andrew (Sun 09 April 2006)
I like Family Guy, but South Park is the superior show. The "observations" made by Matt and Trey, via Cartman, about Family Guy are really quite accurate --- any individual episode is short on plot and long on randomly inserted jokes. However, I am not entirely sure, as they seem to be, that the Family Guy's randomness is such a bad thing. I find that one of the most frequently seen traps that comedies fall into is getting too involved in their own plot. I think the Simpsons have suffered from that over recent years --- individual episodes will be so involved in trying to complete a storyline that there will be hardly any time for actual jokes! Family Guy, whatever its failings, never has this problem.

However, I am afraid that the very nature of Family Guy dictates that the show will be uneven. By inserting all those random jokes, they avoid the trap of becoming too interested in their own plots, but in so doing they create an entirely different situation: the strength of any one episode depends absolutely on the number of funny but unconnected jokes they can insert. Each joke is its own separate entity within any individual episode, and if a handful of them don't work, you have an episode where the laughs come unevenly. In South Park and in other shows where the jokes are more intertwined with the plots, there is less disparity from one moment to the next: either the entire idea is funny and thus the entire episode, or the entire idea fails to work and thus the entire episode. Hence, there are a lot more South Park (and Simpsons, for that matter) episodes that I would consider to be classics than there are Family Guy episodes --- there are many Family Guy episodes with great bits, but very few that are hilarious, start to finish.
Mr. A (Sun 09 April 2006)
Hey, I just stumbled into this forum looking for South Park discussions. That said, I could relate to Cartman's rant about people saying "You must love Family Guy"... I have friends who are wild about FG, and although I can watch it and have a few laughs, I've never understood why so many people are obsessed with it. That's just a matter of taste, I figure. I'm glad to see FG fans taking the joke well. :)
Brett (Sun 09 April 2006)
Don't know about anyone else, but the only time I laughed in that South Park episode was the big-wheel chase.

Thats one major difference between Family Guy and South Park. Family Guy is funny every minute!!
james (Sun 09 April 2006)
i m gonna type some thing but first "remember the time i ate a sandwich with the easter bunny" this is the whole family guy episode i use to love the show but it seems to me that they rely heavy on those "remeber the time" jokes. i think seth forgot how to wright a 20 min story on that 2 year cancelation. oh and rememer the time family use to be good, the first 3 seasons. but south park will always be funner than family guy because, south park is just that relevent comedy not random stuff that makes no sence.
Hugh B (Sun 09 April 2006)
Finally saw the ep. It's sad that Matt and Trey feel so threatened by FG... They're both good shows, but I think they have completely different approaches to humor. The Simpsons try to bash FG constantly, looking so desperate and foolish in the process. You look like a couple of whiney kids, guys. Let FG be FG and SP be SP.
Harry (Mon 10 April 2006)
The thing about this contraversy, which seems to be mainly about the unsophistication of Family Guy's jokes, is that though Family Guy often does make jokes that are not inherent to a plot, nor are they paticularly smart, they make the viewer laugh much harder and more constantly than South Park ever has. South Park's original seasons were very funny, but they mainly consisted of 8 year olds swearing. Those were very funny. But now that they claim to be 'sophisticated' and use political satire, they are not at all as funny and not nearly as entertaining to watch. South Park's recent season has normally constisted of the entire episode being the build up for one joke. Granted that joke will be funny, that means that the episode makes the viewer laugh once. Now if South Park makes you laugh once and Family Guy makes you laugh far more times, which is the one you want to watch? last i checked the purpose of a comedy show is to makke the viewer laugh, Family Guy accomplishes that goal far better than South Park. I was a diehard fan of SP, but now that they have chosen to attack FG I now know where my allegiance lies.
f4nt (Mon 10 April 2006)
SP vs FG.. Wow, I feel like I've been waiting ages for this battle to commence. Which show is funnier? Who knows, and who cares. South Park is the more intelligent show, mainly because there's underlying meanings attacking pop culture every episode.

Family Guy is more like the kid in school that called you dumb, geek, or nerd. Sure, it's funny, and I do get laughs out of Family Guy, but intelligence isn't necessary. Also, FG makes me laugh a crapload more than SP does on most occassions.

South Park however, leaves an impression. There is a message there for the intelligent people out there. The teenie boppers never find the message, but the older people, or the people who know what a newspaper is, do get the message.. And the major joke of every episode.

Like someone already said, this SP episode isn't about SP vs FG.. It's about how far people will go to ban a cartoon. A freaking drawing banned from television? Why? Because it'll show Muhammed? FG shows god all the time, even with a rifle or with hookers at times. That's ok, but are other religions ok? Guess we'll see eh?
Family Guy Dude mang (Mon 10 April 2006)
hmmm, Bad move by south park, although trey and matt are very talented and funny, I think Seth will slap them around in thier retaliation episode. Family guy is much funnier. I hope they make southpark look stupid for what they did. I love both shows, but I got family guys back in this one.
Paul French (Mon 10 April 2006)
The Episode of South Park where they eat food with their butts and crap out there mouths was a social commentary about how riligious ritiousness can be dumb. The point of the pooping out their mouths was that all the stuff they were saying was rediculous and should be taken as crap coming out of their mouths.
Real=Humor (Mon 10 April 2006)
South Park made a good point...every joke FG has involves some out of work actor, or Mr.T, having nothing to do with the story.

REALLY lazy writing, it isn't about "potty humor", but the actual story.

Family guy plots are usually ignored, put in place by "do you remember the time when", or "just like that time".

South park actually has a message, story, AND humor.
Chris (Mon 10 April 2006)
Family Guy is an awful show. Every single joke is Peter having a flashback about some silly job, that drags for two minutes. South Park wasn't paying them homage... they were just saying what all the rest of us thought. Family Guy needs to get cancelled... again.
Fr0sty (Mon 10 April 2006)
THe thing is you shouldnt really compare the booth... there is enough place in my heart and in the market for both showes so dont know why they really get so offended (Matt/Trey). Cuz SP have always thought us not to take everything so seriously... I love Sp for their contemporary satir and so n (even tho they werent like that in the begining..more later Sp had a "message") and I love FG just because the random jokes. I love both showes even tho I belivie FG is funnier now, but FG really doesnt have the "message" that SP has so the shows are very different from each other. They are "smart" in their own way.Silly of SP to bash FG just do your thing instead... but I guess the main plot is about the mohammed drawings and matt and treys disgust for FG just played out good for the story in this episode, but they also rip on themselves in this episode, like when cartman ask Kyle how he would feel if there was a show that ripped on jews...and yeah it does it is called SP that numerous times has ripped on jews. and they give comedy centeral a smack in the face cuz of the scientology and Tom cruise using his connections to get the rerun canceled :D
franchizeking (Mon 10 April 2006)
it's just cartoons, just sit back and be entertained, but personally i would love to see fg comeback and rip sp. I don't even watch sp, I only watched this ep cuz fg was in it! that's sad because I know I was'nt the only one who watched it because fg was in it. For sp it was brilliant for markening, but still sp vs.fg I LOVE IT! IT'S GR8!
jchibs (Mon 10 April 2006)
While I watch family guy all the time, South Park is FAR superior. Whenever south park do a political satire, they show both sides equally. When FG approached a political topic (Like when chris started spouting off facts about marijuana use) they are totally one-sided and preachy. I like family guy but everything south park said about them was spot on.
anony (Mon 10 April 2006)
joe s, while i can't remember that episode entirely, the episode also covered things like atheists trying to get US currency changed because it has "in god we trust" on it. think about why they were in the same episode, how they correlate. The south park creators were saying shit was coming out of these people's mouth, though in the south park world it was very literal. that was the social commentary. Most of the episodes have these parrallels. That shouldn't have been too much of a thinker
Nick Kolsen (Mon 10 April 2006)
There is NO WAY that Aquaman could take Superman!!
Oh wait- sorry, wrong forum.
mark johnson (Tue 11 April 2006)
I like both shows, but both have dropped off in quality in recent seasons. I really can't get behind Trey and Matt on this one, (remember the episode where Jimmy gets his head stuck in a crack whore's hooch guys? wasn't that funny.) SP can get preachy since it tackles every single current event in the news, and the "moral of the story" music is reeeeeally old.
Joe (Tue 11 April 2006)
I agree with alot of the comments made on this site, Family Guy has many aspects that make it appealing, as does South Park... and both shows are famous and successful because of it. I don't think that South Park had a go at Family Guy for any other reason than to create an interesting episode, it worked didn't it? It got all of you (and me) on the internet talking about it. Family Guy is a fantastic show with much hilarity, just beacause South Park had a bit of fun doesn't make Family Guy a worse show. So diehard Family Guy fans don't get too defensive, it's just a bit of fun.
jonny five (Tue 11 April 2006)
KEEPING IT REAL......All the people who say family guy is a better show are not intelligent enough to understand the deep political and social satire south park puts into every episiode, while still making much more funny jokes than family guy. Family guy is for the simple mind, a joke spoon fed to the viewer. An episode of family guy is like those old ad-lib books (insert joke here). you could switch the jokes around in all family guy episodes and get the same result, they have no relevance. South park takes issues relevant in society and our culture annd our able to mold that into 23 minutes of brilliance. That's why South Park has won a peabody award, and on the same line that is why family guy has been pulled off the air numerous times. Im sorry Family Guy fans, if you don't get it it's because you are not educated enough.
J Dog (Wed 12 April 2006)
Family Guy is pretty horrible. The writers are too god damn lazy to actually think about their jokes. They better clean up their act, which would mean no more 15 god damn flash backs an episode.
Not As Crazy As You (Wed 12 April 2006)
Are you all effing nuts? The South Park guys are getting ready to give the finger to Muslims and show Mohammed in their cartoon as a show of support for free speech, and you're all talking about some Family Guy vs. South Park feud? You are all the thickest bunch of idiots I've ever seen!
Arlene (Wed 12 April 2006)
I get South Park but don't find it amusing. They're obviously mad and jealous of the success of Family Guy. South Park has been on for years and have not been close to achieving the success of Family Guy. It's cartoon wars because someone is jealous and bitter of someone else. Family Guy is intellectual and stupid all in one. Stweie's character is an evil genius. The sarcastic, intelligent dog, and the stupid, fat guy, Peter. Sotuh Park isn't doing anything special or talented. Trey Parker and Matt Stone are jealous and Hollywood hates them.
john (Thu 13 April 2006)
maybe matt and trey are a little jealous of the success of FG, but i think they have a right to be. south parks's humor is intelligent,edgy,and relevent. FG's humor is spoonfed, irrelevent, and downright stupid. SP is definitely a much smarter show despite the disguise of low-budget animation. The sad truth is that smart humor doesnt always win out, as most people simply cant appreciate it and want to see the type of mindless humor found in shows like FG. (south park rules)
john (Thu 13 April 2006)
maybe matt and trey are a little jealous of the success of FG, but i think they have a right to be. south parks's humor is intelligent,edgy,and relevent. FG's humor is spoonfed, irrelevent, and downright stupid. SP is definitely a much smarter show despite the disguise of low-budget animation. The sad truth is that smart humor doesnt always win out, as most people simply cant appreciate it and want to see the type of mindless humor found in shows like FG. (south park rules)
Joey joe joe jr (Thu 13 April 2006)
south park is waaaayyyyy better than family guy. kudos to matt and trey for slamming family guy for those damn flashbacks every time they make a joke. long live southpark!!!!
Your mother (Thu 13 April 2006)
Family guy is the best show ever. If it's a komedy it don't need to be intelligent just funny. In Family guy I laugh almost all the time but in south park it gives just a thinker and some times are funny. I hope Family guy strikes back, joke about south parks poor animation or somthing like that.
Jay (Thu 13 April 2006)
You are all idiots. I don't think Trey and Matt hate South Park at all. In fact I think they were using FG as a metaphor for SP all along. I bet they are chilling with Seth right now laughing at you retards.
Kyle Sullivan (Thu 13 April 2006)
I think both shows are good, but I think SP has to win for me too. Family Guy had three great seasons, but I believe they lack the longevity that both SP and The Simpsons have. The new Family Guy episodes are pretty awful, relying on old jokes and trying to force an elaborate storyline each episode. Instead, they need to focus on their best two characters, Peter and Stewie to just say funny things without trying to cram 5 peoples' stories into one episode. I used to love Quagmire, but every single time he comes on the screen he HAS to say giggity, and the only thing they can come up with new is how he actually says it. It's getting pretty lame, and they're really reaching for new jokes that. I think if you find yourself saying Family Guy is better than South Park, I'd be interested what you have to say after 2 or three more seasons of Family Guy. My guess is it's going down the tubes fast.
Wendy (Thu 13 April 2006)
I've seen both parts of "cartoon wars" and, while SP does make fun of FG, I think it should be dwarfed by the bigger issues of freedom of speech and censorship.
stephen jordan (Fri 14 April 2006)
well, all of you guys have made very interesting points. SP is intelligent and also very funny, and there are episodes that are simply funny. like "cartmanland" "professor choas" "woodland critter christmas" those were not preachy and messages and insight, they were just fun. they do that a lot and i think a lot of you are missing that point. FG is hilarious, i love the characters and how a single gag can run for 5 minutes and it is always funny, they are just not as eloquent and intelligent as trey parker and matt stone. "cartoon wars" was briliant and they made a lot of very very good points. in that episode kyle "everyone likes FG, its a good show" so trey parker isnt jealous or hates FG, im sure he has respect bcz he's wise enough to see both sides of an issue. yes he's having cartman say how irrelevant the jokes are, but he also has characters saying how much they like it. FG could be a lot worse i do think FG had some pretty brilliant moments not a lot but some. then again at the end of the day, their just cartoons folks, its just television. and next week we'll see another episode of SP where they talk about somoething else and we'll move on. dont judge somehting b4 you get a chance to truly understand it...and bty the animation on SP has gotten so much fucking better!!! dont say it sucks, remember 9 years ago how it used to look! THAT was crappy, but did u see that chase cartman & kyle had on the road riding their big wheels, good animation, better than 9 years ago so be greatful! it could look a hell of a lot worse, its just a cartoon, they have things they want to say so they say them, and they make jokes its entertaining. i like SP much more than FG, but i do still watch FG, they have a certain humor that SP doesnt have and i dont mean the irrelevant jokes, the relationship between the characters...like did anybody see that FG episode "patriot games" where brian owed stewie some money over a bet i think, and brian didnt have the money, so stewie beat the crap out of him for like 4 minutes "i want the money man, where's my money!? and they just let it play out and its F-ing hilarious!! that humor is kind of brilliant, brian dragging his ass on the carpet "oh you dont like when i do that!" "stop it knock it off" both shows are great, and if you cant respect both shows then your idiots, u dont have to watch something but at least respect and move on dont let it pick at you inside and get on your nerves bcz its not that big of a deal watch FG on sunday and have a good time, then watch SP on wednesday and laugh, both shows are different and thats the way it should be
Charles (Fri 14 April 2006)
Here's how it works... This SP served a few purposes. One, it was to show how SP is sick and tired of FG because people say FG reminds them of SP when it obviously doesn't for the exact reasons stated in there episode by Cartman, which by the way, really bring out what it is about FG that is so annoying. I mean come on, they basically said coming up with an episode of FG is as easy as playing Mad Lips. Two, even though they were making fun of FG, they were also using it to show how our first amendment right has basically been going to sh*t. Three, they used FG too show that we (American society) are (sad but true) still intimidated by terrorist threats. So you all can argue that SP was or wasn't making fun of FG. The way I see it, it was making fun of FG, but more importantly, using it to prove points about society.
Gianluca (Fri 14 April 2006)
SP rules, nuff said...
This don't mean I don't like family guy...
Timmy O'toole (Fri 14 April 2006)
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Jake (Sat 15 April 2006)
I love when someone makes their opinion fact. I also love those of you who have called Family Guy supporters "idiots" because they think Family Guy is a show that is funnier. Everyone has the right to their opinion...And I'm sorry, your opinion is not fact. Different humor works for different people. South Park and Family Guy are different styles of humor, and to say one is superior to the other is just ignorant and arrogant. I like both of them, but Family guy makes me laugh more. *shrug* I guess that means I'm just not an intelligent person, and that I'm not educated. Psh, pull your head out of your ass, and stop being so arrogant.

That's nice that you think Family Guy is poorly written. Its works, and I think it's funny, and so do lots of other people.

I wasn't offended by South Park taking a shot at Family Guy at all. I thought it was funny. I'm looking forward to the Family Guy response.
SM (Sun 16 April 2006)
I'm not sure I follow where the people criticizing Family Guy are coming from. People talk about "so many flashbacks" and "no plot", and I don't know what the hell they're talking about. I've been a fan of Family Guy from the first episode. I get the impression most of the people here throwing out attacks either don't watch the show at all, or have only seen a couple episodes. First of all, every single episode I've ever seen has a very clear plotline. From beginning to end, every single episode tells a pretty clear story. There is a setup, a beginning, a middle, a climax, and an end. That's a plot folks. Just because it doesn't deal with "current" events doesn't mean it isn't a plot. South Park lovers need to stop expecting Family Guy to be the same as South Park and criticizing it based on how it's different. They aren't supposed to be the same, and NO ONE wants them to be. And people attacking "flshbacks" as if the show consisted of nothing else need to actually watch an episode or two all the way through. The last episode I saw had three of those types of joke, and the episode before that had four. Some have more, some have less. It varies a great deal from episode to episode, but I've personally never seen more than six or seven an episode. People talking about "15" flashbacks in every episode are just completely off base and don't have a clue. The shows are around 22 minutes. You're suggesting they throw a flashback in nearly every minute of every show? Get a clue people, that's not even remotely accurate. Seems like most people are reading what is written here by others and using that to throw out their own version of the same crap. Try actually watching the show, then maybe try again. It's just a bit they do occasionally, and a funny one at that. Yeah, sometimes they are random, and that's GOOD. That's why they're funny. It doesn't make the writers lazy. That argument doesn't even make sense. The writers decide what they write, and that's it. Just because you don't like it, they are lazy? How is that an argument? Family Guy episodes are just as long as South Park episodes, and contain just as much dialogue. Whether you find any of it funny or not it a matter of taste, and nothing more. For every person who doesn't care for Family Guy, there are a dozen who love it, and the same goes for South Park. Who cares? Monty Python would end sketches randomly because they weren't going anywhere, and it was hilarious. I don't recall anyone ever implying Monthy Python was "lazy" for being random. Family Guy is random, because THAT is the style of humor of the show and its writers, and THEY WANT IT THAT WAY. They aren't lazy, they're writing what they love, what they have been influenced by, and it happens to be funny much more often than not. If you don't like it, so what? As I said before, Family Guy sure as hell isn't hurting for fans, so if you don't like it, don't watch. It's a simple concept.
george (Sun 16 April 2006)
I used to be a huge fan of SP but lately it's starting to bore me a little. I personally don't need so much social critique. While SP is making a point about how fucked up the society is I am not entertained as much as if Cartman was picking on Butters for no reason at all.
greg (Mon 17 April 2006)
i think we might be missing the point here. the sp folks made fun of family guy but they also made fun of their own show several times. at least twice they talked about cartoons getting on soap boxes and being political instead of being funny. they do a good job of poking fun at the fg style, but, as kyle says, 'dude, its funny.' in fact, almost all the fg stuff is quite positive, if occasionally in a roasting kind of way.

the reasonable kid is kyle, and he likes family guy. the only kid who doesn't like the show is meant to be an exemplar of intimidation and anti-free speech manipulation. i think its clear which of those characters reflects the creators sentiments.

the more interesting question here is regarding the actual 'image of mohammed' question. its clear that matt and trey believe that this is a free speech issue and that americans should show islamic radicals the value of free speech. opponents argue that this is just another form of intolerance, in this case intolerance of religious sensibilities. they would say that some people are born gay and others are born into really religious families, there's no need to needlessly offend either group (not that the government censor, but that private citizens and corporations just don't need to be dicks about it).

i wouldn't want the sp's creators initiation of dialogue go missed by us fg-watching folks. we're supposed to be the smarter ones, right?
The guy who is right (Mon 17 April 2006)
Family guy is irrelevant and can be stupid, but can also be very smart with timing and unique connections (I guess kind of like mad-lip) but all Matt Stone and Trey Parker have done lately is look at the newspaper and pick an issue...then do an episode about it. Fuck you South Park, I bet you wouldnt be as tall without the goddamn soapbox.
Brian Pritchard (Mon 17 April 2006)
The beauty of both shows is that they function on so many levels. They are meant to be funny to those that seek dick and fart jokes, meant to be funny to the highbrow, culturally minded sort, and they both contain ample pop culture references that make you feel smart when you are in on the joke and are usually still funny in the context of the show even if you don't get it (seeing Peter ride Falcor from Neverending Story is still amusing even if you don't know who Falcor is, watching the cripple fight episode of South Park is still funny even if you haven't seen They Live). good stuff from both parties. Two GREAT shows!

Brian P.
Cole (Tue 18 April 2006)
When i say that episode iwas outraged they said that family guy is so random that so maybe it is at least its still funny.
Kyle (Thu 20 April 2006)
Family Guy Does Have Too Many Flash backs Like How Peter Always says "Hey Remember The Time" or Brian " Yer Like That Time" They always have flashbacks its annoying i mean dont get me wrong i like family guy but its just annoying how they do these ENDLESS Flashbacks i HAVE TO AGREE WITH MATT STONE AND TREY PARKERS ATTACK ON FAMILY GUY I AGREE WITH THEM FULLY.
SondrMan (Fri 21 April 2006)
Dudes.. South Park is the best! Family Guy kicks ass to, but South Park is the best.. "Wow.. Yeah.. That's hardcore.. That's like this one time when I didn't like a kid, so I ground his parents up into chilly AND FED it to him" <-- Now that kicks ass..
Kyle Dunn (Sun 23 April 2006)
It's True South Park Makes Fun Of Every TV Show to boot, for example, Fat Albert, Queer eye for the straight Guy, Pokemon, even movies like wild wild west, star wars, HECK THEY RIP OFF EVERY SINGLE TV SHOW KNOWN so they decided to do family guy its just a one off thing they'll move onto another subject next anyway, if what they did affected anybody in anyway just say this in your head. ITS JUST A TV SHOW NOBODY TAKES WHAT THEY SAY OR DO TO HEART, EXCEPT FOR WHEN THEY MOCK RELIGIONS.
john (Wed 26 April 2006)
I think everyone has missed the point that south park is way funnier and more creative than family guy. And everything that south park says about family guy is true.

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